Legislature(2005 - 2006)

04/04/2005 02:55 PM House FIN


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HOUSE BILL NO. 41                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     An Act relating  to minimum periods of  imprisonment for                                                                   
     the  crime of  assault in  the  fourth degree  committed                                                                   
     against an  employee of an  elementary, junior  high, or                                                                   
     secondary school  who was engaged in the  performance of                                                                   
     school duties at the time of the assault.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze  MOVED to  ADOPT work draft  #24-LS0307\F,                                                                   
Luckhaupt,  3/22/05, as the  version of  the bill before  the                                                                   
Committee.  There being NO OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BOB LYNN,  SPONSOR,  pointed  out that  State                                                                   
Statute  provides  for  specific terms  of  imprisonment  for                                                                   
crimes committed  against certain  public employees,  such as                                                                   
peace  officers, firefighters,  etc., in  the performance  of                                                                   
their official duties.  He thought  that school employees who                                                                   
work  with children  deserve the  same level  of respect  and                                                                   
protection under the law.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB  41  would   revise  sentencing  guidelines   so  that  an                                                                   
individual  convicted as  an  adult of  assault  on a  school                                                                   
employee  while on  school grounds,  on  a school  bus, at  a                                                                   
school-sponsored event, or in  the administrative office of a                                                                   
school district,  would receive  a mandatory minimum  term of                                                                   
imprisonment, which would be similar  to that imposed upon an                                                                   
individual  who  assaults  a  peace  officer,  fire  fighter,                                                                   
correctional   employee,   emergency    medical   technician,                                                                   
paramedic, ambulance attendance  or other emergency responder                                                                   
engaged in the performance of  official duties at the time of                                                                   
the offense.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Lynn summarized  that schools must be safe for                                                                   
teachers  and other  school  employees, as  well  as for  the                                                                   
children.   The bill provides  a step toward that  safety and                                                                   
sends a  message to  anyone who  might consider assaulting  a                                                                   
school employee.  He urged support for HB 41.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:50:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANNE CARPENETI, ASSISTANT   ATTORNEY  GENERAL, LEGAL SERVICES                                                                   
SECTION-JUNEAU,   CRIMINAL  DIVISION,   DEPARTMENT  OF   LAW,                                                                   
offered to  answer questions of  the Committee.   She advised                                                                   
that the Administration does supports the bill.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze asked  how  the legislation  compared  to                                                                   
previous  legislation  on  crimes   against  teachers.    Ms.                                                                   
Carpeneti responded  that HB 88  applied to felony  offenses.                                                                   
That  bill had  a waiver  for juveniles,  who were  16 or  17                                                                   
years  old  with  very  serious   weapon  offenses.    HB  41                                                                   
addresses  sentencing for  misdemeanors.   HB  88  and HB  41                                                                   
together do not conflict with one another.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  inquired  if   volunteer  parents  had  been                                                                   
addressed in  the legislation.   Representative  Lynn replied                                                                   
that  the  bill  includes  bus   drivers  but  not  volunteer                                                                   
parents.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:52:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Meyer   worried  that   calling   them   "contract                                                                   
employees" would  create legal ramifications  associated with                                                                   
retirement.    Ms.  Carpeneti   advised  that  the  committee                                                                   
substitute does  not call them contract employees  but rather                                                                   
contract bus drivers.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:53:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  reiterated  his   concern  that  the  bill's                                                                   
language treated contracting employees  as if they were State                                                                   
employees.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:53:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly asked about  the existing language  for                                                                   
peace officers and school district employees.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Carpeneti  replied that peace  officers and  other people                                                                   
would  be  protected  under  D(1),   which  would  provide  a                                                                   
                                th                                                                                              
mandatory minimum  return for  4  degree assaults  that cause                                                                   
physical  injury or  put a  person  in fear.   That  language                                                                   
provides  a  mandatory  minimum  of 60-days.    Both  involve                                                                   
physical injury to the victim.   Paragraph (D) provides for a                                                                   
mandatory  minimum of  30-days  if the  victim  is placed  in                                                                   
fear.   The  new provision  for school  employees and  others                                                                   
covered under those provisions,  adopts a mandatory provision                                                                   
of  60-days.    There is  no  mandatory  minimum  for  school                                                                   
employees who are put in fear.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:55:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hawker   discussed   that  there   are   two                                                                   
categories   of   employees    addressed.      He   mentioned                                                                   
similarities involving hate crime  legislation.  He commented                                                                   
that the legislation would be  singling out two categories of                                                                   
employees  who deserve  special consideration  and asked  why                                                                   
other employees such as court  system workers, do not receive                                                                   
special consideration.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Lynn recommended  that could be the subject of                                                                   
another bill at a different time.   He indicated he wanted to                                                                   
limit this  legislation to only  school employees.   He added                                                                   
that an assault  against any teacher would be  the equivalent                                                                   
of an  assault against a parent  and that the  legislation is                                                                   
not  an assault  between two  private parties  but rather  an                                                                   
individual and the government.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker reiterated  concern regarding  why all                                                                   
public  employees  will  not   deserving  public  protection.                                                                   
Representative   Lynn  thought   that  teachers   are   in  a                                                                   
particularly vulnerable position.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:57:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker  inquired if the legislation  should be                                                                   
extended to  other situations involving youth  offenders such                                                                   
as Covenant  House employees.  Representative  Lynn responded                                                                   
that  a school  is  a  government institution;  whereas,  the                                                                   
other is a private entity.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  clarified that  HB 41 resulted  from problems                                                                   
that occurred  at some schools.  Vice-Chair  Stoltze inquired                                                                   
if the  bill would apply to  private schools.   Ms. Carpeneti                                                                   
opined that it does.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Stoltze  inquired about the current  penalties for                                                                   
assault  on school  employees.   Ms.  Carpeneti related  that                                                                   
many of these offenders have served serious sentences.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:01:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TIP STEELE, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE),  ANCHORAGE SCHOOL                                                                   
BOARD, ANCHORAGE, related that  the Anchorage School District                                                                   
does support HB  41.  He said that the bill  refers to adults                                                                   
and not students assaulting teachers.   He related an example                                                                   
of a  teacher being attacked  in front  of the students.   In                                                                   
the  example, the  courts  were supportive.    He hoped  that                                                                   
implementation of the legislation could keep schools safer.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:05:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer closed public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly  referred  to  Representative  Hawker's                                                                   
previous statements  about hate crimes.  He  expressed doubts                                                                   
about the bill.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Stoltze  pointed  out  that a  person  could  not                                                                   
legally  carry a  concealed  weapon  into a  bar.   He  asked                                                                   
Representative  Lynn   about  testimony  from   other  school                                                                   
districts.     Representative   Hawker  termed  it   "putting                                                                   
sideboards up to protect our employees".   Vice-Chair Stoltze                                                                   
mentioned  that there  have  been a  number  of high  profile                                                                   
cases lately.   Representative  Lynn added  that it  makes no                                                                   
difference  if it is  an urban  or rural  school.  A  problem                                                                   
exists and it has become a national concern.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:09:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Weyhrauch  MOVED to adopt Amendment  1.  (Copy                                                                   
on  File).    Vice-Chair  Stoltze   objected  for  discussion                                                                   
purposes.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Weyhrauch explained  that the  bill does  not                                                                   
allow for  any mitigating  factors.   The amendment  allows a                                                                   
court  to determine  if any  of  the factors  in the  statues                                                                   
apply.   For example,  if duress was  involved, it  should be                                                                   
considered.   Additionally, he  believed that there  would be                                                                   
an indeterminate fiscal note rather than a zero.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer speculated  that  the occurrences  would  not                                                                   
happen often,  which is why  the note is  zero.  He  asked if                                                                   
there   were  examples   of   someone   hitting  a   teacher.                                                                   
Representative  Weyhrauch gave  an  example of  a person  who                                                                   
throws someone into  another person that hits a  teacher.  He                                                                   
emphasized  that mitigating  factors  must  be considered  in                                                                   
order to be consistent.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer   asked  if   he  would  suggest   mitigating                                                                   
sentences for Peace Officers also.   Representative Weyhrauch                                                                   
replied  that it could  apply.   Co-Chair Meyer  acknowledged                                                                   
that the  amendment could  provide more  flexibility  for the                                                                   
judge.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:15:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Holm  voiced   concern  regarding   why  the                                                                   
Committee  was discussing  assault 4  rather than assault  3.                                                                   
He asked where that line rests.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Lynn  commented that his intent  was to remove                                                                   
the  flexibility  from  the  judicial   system  and  make  it                                                                   
mandatory.   He added  that he would  be satisfied  with what                                                                   
the Committee decides.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Carpeneti explained  the difference  between assault  in                                                                   
     thrdth                                                                                                                     
the 4  degree  and in the 3   degree.  She noted that  the 4                                                                    
degree is  a Class  A misdemeanor.   Any assault  higher than                                                                   
that  is  a   felony.    The  bill  provides   a  legislative                                                                   
conclusion that  it is important  to have a safe  environment                                                                   
in schools,  more so  than in bars  and restaurants  and that                                                                   
teachers need to  be protected.  The bill applies  to assault                                                                   
    th                                                                                                                          
in 4 degree, where there is physical harm.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:20:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Weyhrauch  responded  that  could  create  an                                                                   
"interesting hierarchy".   He stated  that he is in  favor of                                                                   
the bill,  but stressed  that there  are situations  in which                                                                   
the court should  be able to mitigate.  He noted  that he was                                                                   
not opposed to  a 60-day minimum sentence but  that the judge                                                                   
needs mitigating ability.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:22:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  suggested that  the amendment would  not take                                                                   
away  from  the  intent  of the  bill.    Vice-Chair  Stoltze                                                                   
WITHDREW his OBJECTION.   There being NO  further OBJECTIONS,                                                                   
Amendment #1 was adopted.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:23:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Foster referenced  on the sentence  regarding                                                                   
assault  on a  school employee.   He  noted that  in Nome,  a                                                                   
Peace Officer killed  a member of the community  without good                                                                   
reason.  He worried about situations  in which the bill could                                                                   
be harmful to the non-guilty person.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Carpeneti  requested to  help draft  the amendment.   She                                                                   
noted  that  whenever  there are  sentencing  issues,  it  is                                                                   
important  to be  clear whose  burden  of proof  it will  be.                                                                   
Representative Weyhrauch understood  that the intent of proof                                                                   
would be on the defendant.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:26:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Meyer   acknowledged   the  concerns   voiced   by                                                                   
Representative Foster.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hawker  thought  that everyone  would  be  in                                                                   
support  of  the  bill;  however,  warned  about  creating  a                                                                   
"privileged  class"  within  communities.     Co-Chair  Meyer                                                                   
agreed.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Foster  MOVED to report CS HB 41  (FIN) out of                                                                   
Committee  with  individual  recommendations   and  with  the                                                                   
accompanying fiscal notes.  There  being NO OBJECTION, it was                                                                   
so ordered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CS  HB 41  (FIN) was  reported out  of Committee  with a  "no                                                                   
recommendation" and  with a new  zero note by  the Department                                                                   
of  Public  Safety,  zero  note   #1  by  the  Department  of                                                                   
Administration,   zero   note  #2   by   the  Department   of                                                                   
Corrections, and zero note #4 by Department of Law.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:28:44 PM                                                                                                                    

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